Thursday, December 10, 2009

For the Conspiracy Theorists? What were YOU thinking? (Part 2)?

In the spirit of honestly trying to understand. Some of the points I have seen are:



1-Why questions WTC 7 when numerous Non-Partisan experts were involved. If you watch the video of the towers falling, there is no way 7 did not receive a substantial hit, the video of the building shows several floors cratered. How is it this can be wrong?



2 - If a plane did not hit the Pentagon, why are there so many witnesses that saw the plane hit? Why was there airplane debris at the site? What happened to this flight?



3 - The plastic boxcutter theory - I know I would fear my life if someone put said plastic-encased METAL boxcutter to my throat. Wouldn't you?



4 - World's greatest kept secret - How is it that a conspiracy with involvement in the hundreds, maybe even thousands, has been supressed this long?



5 - Operation Northwoods - This operation was declassified. Why would they declassify this information if they were planning an attack similar? Oper. Northwoods called for NO DEATHS!



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Don't you love how they all come out of hiding when you ask a question about 9/11. I mean, how dare you question them? LOL.



I wonder how long it will take for them to have this question deleted.



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Firstly, I would like to say that I am NOT a conspiracy theorist. I am just a person who has investigated some of the sites and claims...and have found some inconsistencies. I am not jumping to the conclusion that the American government was responsible...that is where I think the theorists lose ground. They should stick to architectural proof, and leave out the blame game.



The most compelling discussions I have found/seen involve the clearly visible proof of explosives taking out the towers. The fact that it fell the way it did in its own footprint is proof of a controlled demolition. But my explanation for this (personal belief) is that a building that size with previous attacks would have had explosives installed in the building sometime after the first attack. For safety reasons. If the towers had not fallen in their footprints, they would have taken out so many other structures and lives. This way, should something horrible happen, the demolition could be controlled. But could this be made common knowledge? Absolutely not. Who would want to work in a building wired with explosives? And how could the administration explain that decision to the public? They couldn't.



As for the plane hitting the pentagon....the debris found was not consistent with the size of jet reported hitting the building. And why have we not seen any footage of the hit, when there were 8 cameras trained on the outside of the building? It wasn't to protect the public from the ugliness of the sight, as we were subjected to an enormous amount of visual ugliness already that day.



I do believe that terrorists planned and carried out the attacks. But the foreknowledge of the attacks is under question for me, and how it was handled by the government is also under question.
I'd answer your ? with mine. How could 4 commercial aircraft, full of passengers all leave their flight plans circle about and crash into or aim at heavily populated civilian targets with no response from the US military? Wasn't it 20 min. between the the first tower being struck and the second? I believe the protocol in that situation would call for the military to shoot down a plane to prevent a second, third, and fourth incident.
MR. White....what part of DOCTORED EDITED VIDEO can you not seem to understand...or is your head burried in Rosie's bum...



Oh I am sorry I know you refuse to let FACTS get in the way of your Ignorant spew.....
I don't buy the idiotic conspiracy theories either. I just answered a similar question. I'll paste my comment regarding Building 7:



I knew WTC 7 was going to fall before it did. Does that make me part of the "conspiracy?" It was reported on the news (Ashleigh Banfield - NBC or MSNBC) that they were pulling firemen, etc. from the building because it was unstable and expected to fall. (Remember, two buildings had just fallen, hours before.) And it fell as expected. Concussion, debris, fire, etc. can do that to a building. Duh.



I'm sure that in the crush of events and reports, someone on the BBC, 3,000 miles away, could easily have garbled "will collapse" into "has collapsed" without any malevolent action being responsible.



Remember the trapped miners? There was a report 12 were alive, and an hour later it was discovered to be a tragic mistake in reporting - 12 had died. Do the conspiracy theorists think the miners were found alive, then murdered? The same "logic" would apply.



PS These "conspiracy" people are not to be understood, merely pitied as the LOSERS they are.
good little sheep. atta boy. your just what they want.
Just for clarification, firefighters do not refer to "pull it" to evacuate a building, NFPA standard protocall is 3 horn blasts from air horns or fire apparatus, WTC 7 fell all at once, all four corners at the same time, there was damage from the other building collapse, but this would not constitute a full blown collapse, more like a lean to collapse if anything, whole buildings do not collapse on to their own foot print from one sided building damage.(impossible) As for the pentagon, 2 fire apparatus were just minutes away at an earlier mva and responded to the pentagon, the first pictures of the incident show 2 trucks on scene, with no debris on the lawn, they actually knocked the fire down. Ever see a plane crash? not just wreckage but fingers, toes, arms, legs, and various other burned body parts,seats, luggage, see any of this at the pentagon?. just my .02 cents.
Right Feathers (not)... So the military knows which planes are going to shoot down? And what do they do use lasers that disintegrate the planes so they don't fall down on the people below. If the military would have shot down a plane over Manhattan the wreckage would fall and kill thousands. Say they were to shoot down the wrong plane, more grief.
Sounds like you've learned how to ask questions, too bad you don't question the govt the same way.



1. WTC 7 collapsed evenly as if well planned out explosions went off, not random debris so as to make it tumble.



2. If so many people "saw" a plane why did it disappear and why isn't it on the released video. Alot of people saw the statue of liberty disappear back in the 80's too.



3. How many of the hundreds on board a plane can you take out with a box cutter? You might slit one or two necks but not even sheep are that dumb.



4. Military objectives and classified evidence can be kept secret for as long as those in power want to keep them that way. Everybody has something to lose.



5. Why did PNAC publish the "pearl harbor event" statement? I dont know but it sure looks like they got what they wanted.
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May I add some more? If the intention was to start a war, why blow up the Pentagon? I would assume one would need the Pentagon if one were intending to go to war.



Don't' you think just One WTC tower would have been enough?



What about the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania?



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You didn't address the fact that the BBC reported WTC 7 down before it fell.

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